AVIARY TRANSCRIPTION Reflections of Watergate https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/r/gf0ms3mm40 Media File: MS0274_Watergate_event Transcription File: MS0274_Watergate_event.vtt Description: Plain Text Exported From Aviary: 2024-09-03T16:58:42 TRANSCRIPTION BEGIN [00:00:05] Good evening. It was almost two years ago, in June [00:00:08] 1972, that five men broke into the Democratic [00:00:11] National Committee headquarters in Washington. It [00:00:15] turned out that they were connected with my [00:00:17] reelection committee and the Watergate break in [00:00:20] became a major issue in the campaign. The basic [00:00:24] question at issue today is whether the president [00:00:27] personally acted improperly in the Watergate [00:00:30] matter. [00:00:36] Well, when you grew up in Iowa, which I did. It [00:00:40] was the son of immigrants we prided ourselves in [00:00:43] our country, you know, we were proud of our [00:00:45] country, proud of our president. We may not have [00:00:49] agreed with everything the president said. So [00:00:52] that's what I grew up with. I grew up with that [00:00:54] names. We listened to the president's on the radio [00:00:58] there, not as much television. And it gave us a [00:01:00] sense of pride than that period where I go to [00:01:04] Congress. And just because I was a different party [00:01:08] from Nixon and I had met Nixon at the White House [00:01:11] when we got sworn in, it wasn't enough just [00:01:14] because we differed with him on policy or certain [00:01:17] issues to vote for the impeachment. So that's [00:01:21] really what I walked into when I was elected in [00:01:25] November. In the general election, I had to decide [00:01:29] what committees I wanted to be on and I decided I [00:01:32] did not want to be on the House Judiciary [00:01:34] Committee. Of course, not knowing that it would be [00:01:39] in the middle of history when it would have to [00:01:42] take up the impeachment of Richard Nixon, of [00:01:45] course, if anybody had the slightest inkling that [00:01:48] there would be an impeachment inquiry, you know, I [00:01:50] would never have been put on the House Judiciary [00:01:52] Committee. I was a brand new member. I had no [00:01:54] clout. And there's no way that the leadership [00:01:57] would have ever given me such a plum assignment. [00:02:00] There have been allegations, insinuations that I [00:02:03] knew about the planning of the Watergate break in [00:02:06] and that I was involved in an extensive plot to [00:02:09] cover it up. The House Judiciary Committee is now [00:02:13] investigating these charges. From our perspective [00:02:16] and from the committee's role, it was a [00:02:19] combination of putting the presidency on trial. We [00:02:22] had to decide whether or not under our [00:02:24] Constitution, this one check of the abuse of power, [00:02:29] whether this one check that the framers of our [00:02:31] Constitution laid out, which they never expected [00:02:35] probably to ever happen, whether that check was in [00:02:41] play, what we didn't realize at the same time the [00:02:44] presidency was on trial, the Congress was on trial [00:02:47] because the Congress had to make a decision which [00:02:50] was momentous, which affected the country. The [00:02:53] stakes are very high. If we wanted to have justice [00:02:59] done, we couldn't be seen to be. [00:03:02] Acting in a partisan way, so the effort was very [00:03:07] serious and sincere. The House Judiciary Committee [00:03:10] went out of its way to act and as much a [00:03:13] nonpartisan way as possible because we did not [00:03:16] want any questions to be asked about where we [00:03:19] being unfair to Richard Nixon. So we wanted to do [00:03:22] whatever we did correctly. [00:03:30] Ever since the existence of the White House taping [00:03:32] system was first made known last summer. I have [00:03:35] tried vigorously to guard the privacy of the tapes, [00:03:40] I've been well aware that my effort to protect the [00:03:43] confidentiality of presidential conversations has [00:03:46] heightened the sense of mystery about Watergate. [00:03:49] And in fact, this has increased suspicions of the [00:03:53] president. Many people assume that the tapes must [00:03:59] incriminate the president, otherwise he wouldn't [00:04:03] insist on their privacy. We had no idea that there [00:04:06] would be tapes that we would listen to and the [00:04:10] impact of those tapes, which probably no president [00:04:15] now is ever going to have in the White House again, [00:04:18] really was a crushing blow. And when I heard the [00:04:20] tapes and had to make that decision, that's that's [00:04:25] really what was a major factor in terms of [00:04:29] ultimately deciding the vote. No one in the White [00:04:32] House was involved. I want there to be no question [00:04:37] remaining about the fact that the president has [00:04:40] nothing to hide. He wasn't able to admit his [00:04:46] mistakes if he would have been able to have gone [00:04:49] before the camera and said, look, I'm sorry the [00:04:53] events happened that were not right. It was wrong [00:04:57] and I was wrong. And I I asked the American public [00:05:02] for forgiveness. And I still want to be your [00:05:05] president. I think our public is a forgiving kind [00:05:10] of public. And the voter would have accepted that. [00:05:14] And I think it would have been very difficult to [00:05:17] proceed. I think that argument would have been [00:05:20] hard. He could have acknowledged what happened and [00:05:25] I think it would have been taken on its face and [00:05:28] perhaps would have changed the ultimate outcome. [00:05:37] The only other emotional moment that came to me [00:05:42] was that I felt sad when we had the vote [00:05:47] was very emotional because I didn't want to [00:05:51] impeach the president, I didn't want to remove a [00:05:54] president. I didn't want to acknowledge the abuse [00:05:57] of office. Mr. Flowers, I. Mr. Sarbanes. I. Mr. [00:06:04] Railsback. [00:06:08] MS. Holtzman, I. Nobody took any pleasure in that [00:06:14] vote. I didn't agree with many of the things that [00:06:18] Richard Nixon stood for, but I hated having to [00:06:22] cast that vote because he was my president and I [00:06:25] did not want to see president of the United States [00:06:28] engage in that conduct. But I knew I had no choice. [00:06:31] I knew I had a responsibility under the [00:06:33] Constitution to hold him accountable. Mr. Cohen. [00:06:40] Mr. Rodino, I. [00:06:43] Mr. Connor, I. [00:06:47] Mr. Mezvinsky, I mean, we talked among ourselves, [00:06:52] including the Barbara Jordan and the other people [00:06:55] and the chairman Rodino instead, it was a sad [00:06:58] moment, but yet it was probably one of the finest [00:07:02] hours for Congress. Later, we discovered when we [00:07:05] voted for the impeachment of Richard Nixon, I [00:07:09] don't recall that any poll had been taken. So [00:07:13] nobody exactly knew what the consequences of this [00:07:16] were going to be, we just did what the evidence [00:07:20] and the Constitution and the law told us was the [00:07:24] right thing to do. And then when Nixon had to make [00:07:29] he made his resignation speech in the White House [00:07:32] and he talked about it. And I was then driving to [00:07:35] the Hill. This was after the hearings and [00:07:37] everything. I literally pulled off the road and [00:07:40] cried because I felt what it did to our country. [00:07:44] But yet, on the other hand, it was as I indicated, [00:07:50] Congress on trial was the test. And it probably, [00:07:54] as I said, came out to perhaps be one of the [00:07:56] finest hours. [00:08:04] The impeachment of a president is a remedy of last [00:08:07] resort. It is the most solemn act of our entire [00:08:11] constitutional process. The impact of such an [00:08:14] ordeal would be felt throughout the world, and it [00:08:18] does have its effect on the lives of all Americans. [00:08:22] For many years to come. There were many people who [00:08:25] said the country can withstand an impeachment, [00:08:28] that this would be tear the country apart, that we [00:08:31] could never do this. It would be terrible. But, [00:08:34] you know, the fact of the matter is, Americans are [00:08:36] pretty strong people and our country is a pretty [00:08:40] strong country and know the country did not [00:08:42] collapse in the face of the of the impeachment [00:08:45] effort. In fact, I think it became stronger [00:08:48] because Americans discovered that in the end, we [00:08:50] all shared the same value, or most of us [00:08:53] overwhelming majority, shared the values that more [00:08:55] important than a president, a party was the [00:09:00] Constitution and the rule of law, that we were a [00:09:03] democracy. So the president did something wrong [00:09:05] and this was the procedure. Then the procedure was [00:09:07] going to be followed. Here we are 40 years later [00:09:10] and no one's really seriously attacked. The [00:09:13] process in which under which the committee acted [00:09:17] or the results of the impeachment process, the [00:09:20] papers should be available for the public and for [00:09:23] researchers to sort of know what what we went [00:09:26] through. The history of this also maybe as a [00:09:29] lesson as to perhaps how government. Can run, [00:09:34] whether you're a partisan on one side or the other, [00:09:38] that there comes a time when you know the country, [00:09:42] you have to face issues and you have to come [00:09:44] together as a people to deal with with volatile [00:09:49] issues. Yes. That are emotional. But yet you [00:09:53] expect your government and your representatives to [00:09:55] sort of be to be able to do that, to take this [00:09:59] position. So it really showed that the [00:10:02] institutions of government can work and what the [00:10:05] founders really intended to do. So I hope the [00:10:08] papers will bring out perhaps what can be done [00:10:12] rather than what we're witnessing perhaps on the [00:10:16] front pages and on television today. TRANSCRIPTION END